Wednesday, April 09, 2008

[gay mafia] alive, well and targeting youth


The existence and power of the gay mafia

Not only is there a gay mafia but it is recognizable, well funded and politically active.

The "Gay Mafia" and "Velvet Mafia" are typically associated with the upper echelons of the fashion and entertainment industries, and the terms are also used humorously by gay people themselves, some looking to David Geffen as the unofficial head.

They're well funded and active:

Stonewall, the leading gay rights organisation, has an annual budget approaching £1 million, much of which is raised through the business community. Sponsorship, advertising and corporate fund-raising deals bring in enough revenue to fund a slick campaign, a spacious suite of offices in central London and a regular stream of champagne receptions and events.

And very much involved in changing legislation:

In a survey by YouthSpeak, the gay rights youth group which I chaired for a while, it was found that 84 per cent of young people valued social changes over legal reforms, and that over 70 per cent thought that most gay rights organisations put too much emphasis on trying to change laws.

Like most PC advocates, the gay mafia has clout in its chosen areas of influence and has interwoven with powerful people:

The former head of the CAA talent agency made the accusation in an interview for the August issue of Vanity Fair. Ovitz accuses record mogul David Geffen, co-founder of DreamWorks SKG, of leading the gay Mafia, which includes a few business leaders who are not gay, such as Michael Eisner, CEO of Disney.

Ovitz, who sold his company, the Artists Management Group, in May for $12 million, says he doesn't understand why he is so hated by the group.

... and with public authorities:

Leicester City Council funds a Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual Centre which runs a regular "Lesbians making babies" workshop to teach the principles of self-insemination. The centre receives £35,385 from local authorities.

... or

It is a criminal offence to commit a homosexual act in public whether it be in a public lavatory ("cottage") or a public park ("cruising ground"). Yet Lambeth, Southwark & Lewisham Health Authority have published a step by step internet guide to "making cruising more enjoyable" which provides advice on what to do if you are arrested.

... or

Camden and Islington Health Promotion NHS Trust provide a fully searchable internet database to help homosexual men find gay saunas, "leather bars" and other places where they can break the law and engage in the very activities which most place their health at risk.

Not long ago they targeted the last bastion of male youth - the Boy Scout Movement, seeking to allow the recruitment of gay counsellors and attacking the movement's refusal to countenance this:

We see this process working every day in the competitive market. The rights of boys are not violated because the Girl Scouts exclude them. The rights of Presbyterians are not violated because Catholics won't give them Holy Communion. The rights of girls are not violated because the NFL won't let them play. Each exclusion creates a new market niche, and all together they form real as versus coerced diversity.

The gay lobby construed their blocking as an attack on human rights:

If I had suggested to you 10 years ago, that the Boy Scouts of America would come under attack by the homosexual lobby, you would have declared that prospect preposterous too. Face facts, the homosexual lobby is a subversive organization which is working to redefine traditional (male/female) families. They won't stop until they are stopped! Live and live yes, but don't shove the crap down my throat! [Stephanie M. Davis]

The false constructs of homosexuality and sexual orientation

Perhaps the most insidious aspect, due to its subtle message spanning a growing generation of youth, are the social constructs "sexual orientation" and "homophobia", trotted out as freely as "conspiracy theorist" and given hijacked titles such as "Human Rights" which has about as much connection with the gay mafia as "Democratic" has to the former "Democratic" Soviet satellites.

For a start, these constructs are built on a false first premise:

The reason why there was no word for homosexuality in Chinese was because it was never seen as a defining or integral part of a person’s identity. Male-male sexual and romantic bonds were construed as relationships between two people as opposed to a psychological essence that defined either person. Moreover, these same-sex bonds were seen as a perfectly acceptable and natural way of life in Imperial China (Hinsch, 1992).

Part of the reason why gay culture exists is as a counter-reaction to the oppression and marginalization of homosexuals over the past 150 years in Western culture, but the reason why that marginalization occurred in the first place was because a special category of life-long sexual preferences was created and defined as psychologically aberrant. There are two assumptions that were embedded in that definition and both are problematic. First of all, the concept of homosexuality, and more importantly our conceptualization of sexual orientation, assumes a life-long predisposition.

It is just not so that only birth is the primary factor and that one will be homosexual from birth to grave.

As a former boarding housemaster of a senior boys' house, I can cite you many cases of overt homosexual [needs really to be seen as bi] activity, particularly around Class 8/9 level and the reaction of the married couple and myself who ran the house was to not make too big a deal of it.

Many readers know I'm public school educated and the instances I can cite there where homosexuality was displayed are beyond count. Most boys grow out of this but those who don't grow out of it find themselves in a lifestyle and community in which such activity is acceptable. Hence Burgess, MacLean and Blunt.

As Julie Bindel puts it:

Attempts to identify a genetic basis for homosexuality refuse to accept that sexual desire is a social construct. If we wanted to be straight, we would be.

Youth orientation and interference

The most insidious aspect of the constructs themselves is the interference with youth sexually maturing in its own way. Quite simply, the gay lobbies wish to reach a young group and present to them "choices", not as "straight" and "aberrant" but as two equal choices as one would choose between Republican and Democrat.

An article on youth suicide says:

My own experiences with a sexual minority youth groups in Calgary from 1991 to 1996 has taught me to give warnings with respect to anyone contemplating the referral of a youth to such a group, especially with respect to accountability and honesty issues. For example, trouble in Calgary's gay community began after I had been reporting some unwelcome "community" truths, such as the reality of adolescents boys relating sexually with much older gay males because they often were only attracted to older males, and about boys ending up in gay clubs by the age of 14 years as a result of their contact with the gay and lesbian youth group.

I also reported realities such as an 1994 observation made by a 19-year-old Calgary gay youth leader. On the basis of his experiences with many gay youth groups in Canada, about half were reported to be "fuckfest" (sic) groups. He noted this, however, only after I reported what I had overheard a Calgary Gay Lines peer counselor tell a teenager who had called for advice. He was told not visit the gay and lesbian youth group because he would only get "fucked there" (sic).

The great lie the gay mafia peddles is that they are not paedophilic and that large numbers of paedophiles don't prefer boys [not in an overall majority but most certainly they do]:

In 1995 the homosexual magazine "Guide" said, "We can be proud that the gay movement has been home to the few voices who have had the courage to say out loud that children are naturally sexual" and "deserve the right to sexual expression with whoever they choose. …" The article went on to say: "Instead of fearing being labeled pedophiles, we must proudly proclaim that sex is good, including children's sexuality … we must do it for the children's sake."

... or

Larry Kramer, the founder of ACT-UP, a noted homosexual activist group, wrote in his book, "Report from the Holocaust: The Making of an AIDS Activist": "In those instances where children do have sex with their homosexual elders, be they teachers or anyone else, I submit that often, very often, the child desires the activity, and perhaps even solicits it."

... or

PFLAG has created a national campaign called, "From Our House to the Schoolhouse," distributing to school officials – among other materials – a booklet entitled, "Just the Facts About Sexual Orientation and Youth: A Primer For Principals, Educators, & School Personnel.
... or

Avon Health Promotion Services encourages children as young as 13 to act out role plays in class where their roles include: "Married man who was 'done' for cottaging... S & M heterosexual woman....transvestite cabaret artist". [Cottaging is the slang term for homosexual activity in lavatories] The video Avon has produced for schools targets pupils "Questioning their sexuality" and seeks to develop "coming out" skills. It ends with one boy saying "try experimenting with other boys and girls and see who you feel most comfortable with".

... or

Haringey Council's Outzone project seeks to provide homosexual youth workers to go into Haringey and Barnet schools. The project is funded by local health authorities.

... or

Oxfordshire County Council funds homosexual youth workers to "build appropriate relationships" with young people "unsure of their sexual identity".

Young people "unsure of their sexual identity"? And who determines this? And what sort of lifestyle does the gay community have?

The real threat to homosexual Americans is not discrimination but physical devastation. The average life span of an American man is 73. The average smoker lives to 66 years of age. The best available research suggests that the average life span of male homosexuals is around 43 years of age. Forty-three.

When Elizabeth Birch of the Human Rights Campaign took him to task for using Dr. Cameron’s data, Mr. Bennett replied that he didn’t just get it from Dr. Cameron. He had a second source to support his statement — this passage from Jeffrey Satinover’s 1996 book Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth:

In April 1993, three researchers presented a paper to the Eastern Psychological Association… They found that the gay male life span, even apart from AIDS and with a long-term partner,is significantly shorter than that of married men in general by more than three decades. AIDS further shortens the life span of homosexual men by more than 7 percent.

Outing

If none of the aforementioned stirred anything in you, then perhaps the practice of "outing" might. In the name of eliminating hypocrisy, the gay community is well known for periodic bouts of exposure of their own people:

In the late twentieth century, outing became a common term for taking someone "out of the closet" - that is, publicising that someone is gay. The term can be used to refer to any publicising of a person's homosexuality without their consent

The counterproductive effects of this and the justification for it are mentioned here:

So if exposing someone’s homosexuality might help a larger cause, is there a principle that nevertheless holds that their privacy should be sacrosanct? Rep. Barney Frank, who came out voluntarily in 1987, has said that closeted politicians “don’t have the right to be a hypocrite; you don’t have a right to exempt yourself from the negative things you do to other people.”

Meaning that because you're gay, it's quite OK to expose someone else who is because you yourself think it's better if he does. Nice thinking.

And of course there is always the Church to out:

The "outing" of 10 gay Bishops by OutRage! during the Church of England General Synod last November was arguably the biggest and most successful "outing" accomplished anywhere in the world. Previous "outings" by gay activists (mainly in the US) have been generally confined to naming lone individuals. None have ripped open the closet doors of an establishment institution quite so decisively as the OutRage! revelations in front of Church House, the London headquarters of the Anglican Church.

Outrage! Not one or two homosexuals but a recognizable organization dedicated to violating basic ethics - violating the right of a person's personal sexuality to be a matter between him and his partner.

So yes, I have many homosexual blogfriends and some personal friends I imagine are that way inclined. Good luck to them - they are consenting adults and can do as they wish, a point I made earlier today.

But the political propagation of said behaviour and the institutionalization of it in law to the point of making normal family oriented people criminal or vilified in opposing this propagation, e.g. in Penguin or the youth orienting of their message - this is something up with which I shall not put.

10 comments:

Quiet_Man said...

I shouldn't worry too much, the way England's going the Muslims will soon have the gays outlawed.

Verlin Martin said...

"The simple fact that 'homosexuality' survives, shows that, against the odds, evolution has favoured it."

You couldn't find the logic in that statement with a map and a dwarven guide.

G said...

Semaj, with respect, you're assuming a number of things you cannot know. Most importantly, that we choose to be homosexual. Well, I never chose it, I've been this way as long as I have had sexual feelings. In that sense it's totally 'natural' even it doesn't contribute to reproduction. This fact changes the whole terms of the debate.

You've also, by the way, swallowed a lot of urban myths, misinformation, hearsay and lies. Stonewall etc do not target young straight people in the hope of somehow converting them, because they know such a thing is not possible. This myth of conversion is one that people such as the Christian fundamentalists cling to (so they can claim that gays are trying to spread their supposedly evil ways, but also to promote the damaging myth that they can somehow 'cure' us). But it just isn't true. Take it from those of us who know, and respect our experiences instead of making a lot of assumptions that comfortably fit the way you would LIKE to see the world.

Be honest about what you really KNOW and what you would LIKE to be the truth.

Best wishes.

oestrebunny said...


Hence the targetting of youth to get them young.


Never would I have expected to read such a ridiculous statement on this blog.

How is being gay not normal? And who's to say what is 'normal' and what is not?

Normality only represents the characteristics that are typical for— that is, exhibited by—most members of a particular group.

Perhaps a better word to use would then be common, and not normal.

To say that something deviates from the 'norm' has such negative connotations attached to it and really, that kind of negativity does not belong here.

There is nothing wrong with educating young people about homosexuality and the issues that surround it. If can only be a good thing. Ignorance breeds fear and intolerance, isn't it time we moved on from that?

Semaj Mahgih said...

Well, they were not my words, Bunny - they were a summation of the proof shown so read it for yourself.

G said...

Semaj, I think you're missing oestrebunny's point. What is so wrong about deviating from a perceived 'norm'? A huge nose is a deviation from the norm, disabilities are a deviation from the 'norm'.

Semaj Mahgih said...

My focus in this is and has been, [from Cabals through to Feminism], on organized blocs who use tactics which rebound on a wider population.

These are the ones I go for.

Bunny, Nunyaa and yourself want to focus on the gay issue and argue it. We're not actually arguing as we have different focuses.

The simple test of how strongly I feel on the gay issue is that I have not addressed it before at this blog.

Bankers, cartels and globalization - right from day one. Gay issue - only now.

The issue of whether it is inherited or learned I can see what you say and what the quoted sources also say.

Where I do come in strongly though is any attack on the traditional family and this most certainly comes from the gay bloc, as a political body.

It's this interference in marriage, which is already under threat from other sources that I focus on.

What inidvidual gay people do is outside my brief.

oestrebunny said...

If you'll notice, James. I didn't actually credit those words as yours.

Welshcakes Limoncello said...

Well, I think I've said before her that I don't think any of us are 100% gay or straight , so much may depend on the circumstances of our lives at a particular time and whom we meet. I take your point about boarding schools and even other single-sex schools: the "gay" stage is not always that, but an outlet for developing sexual feelings. I don't think we can condemn families where the partners are gay, though, as they may be able to give a child more love than a "conventional" family. I think the whole insemination issue is an entirely separate one and, as you know, I do not think that parenthood is a "right".

James Higham said...

I'm looking back at this two and a half years later and it's interesting who didn't come in to the discussion [of regulars at that time], people I know accept the quotes.

Yet if they'd disagreed, they'd have been in like a shot. G is the only one I don't know, from outside but the others are leftist, of course, except for Lord Nazh and so his comment was along predictable lines.

To this day, no one has provided anything other than assertion about "born with" and if we're going to get into anecdotes, I'll provide one of my own. When I was 11/12, I was molested/raped by three separate men - two were gay and the third was married [though that doesn't make any statement one way or the other].

So don't start asserting to me that there is no link between "gayness" and paedophilia because I found out, first hand, that that is not the case.

I continue to say that if gays wish to do what they do among themselves, as adults, fine. Just leave the kids right out of it.